"We have tried on 18 occasions to reach an agreement on a referendum and the answer has always been no," he told the crowd.
"We have no other option but to vote. We call on the international community to support us and on democrats the world over to help us to defend the rights that are threatened in Catalonia, such as the right of freedom of expression and the right to vote."
On Friday, the Catalan government announced that a referendum on independence from Spain would be held on 1 October. The defiant gesture met with a familiar response from Madrid: not only would such a vote be illegal, it would not be allowed to go ahead.
"They can announce a referendum as many times as they want … but the referendum is not going to take place," said Spain's deputy prime minister, Soraya Sáenz de Santamaría. Another minister dismissed it as "a new step in a strategy that's leading nowhere".
The secessionists disagree, arguing that they have been forced to hold the vote because repeated efforts to engage the Spanish government have been thwarted or ignored.
Carme Forcadell, the leader of the Catalan parliament, received a huge ovation at the Barcelona rally when she told the flag-waving crowd "there is no Plan B, the only way forward is a referendum".
Catalonia held an unofficial referendum in November 2014 in which 80% voted for independence, but barely a third of eligible voters turned out.
"I think the turnout will be higher than in 2014 because a lot of people want to have their say," said Jesús Espinosa, waiting in the 30-degree heat for Guardiola to speak. "We've been striving for this for 300 years and we're not going to stop now."
"What I want is for us to have the opportunity to vote and to become an independent Catalan republic and to do it legally and peacefully. Madrid will respond as it's always done because Catalonia is a source of income and they'll fight with all they have to keep it."
After the mass rallies in recent years that have attracted more than a million people, Sunday's turnout of only tens of thousands, according to the Catalan government, might be viewed as disappointing. According to a poll at the end of March, support for independence is falling, with 48.5% of Catalans opposed to seceding from Spain, while 44.3% supported breaking away.
Raül Romeva, the Catalan foreign affairs minister, told the Guardian the regional government had a duty to put independence to a popular vote. "We have tried to reach a consensual agreement with Madrid but their response has always been no," he said.
"At the end of the day – given there's not even been the will to sit down at the table to discuss the question – the Catalan government had a democratic obligation and the mandate to put this to the people of Catalonia so that they can express themselves freely."
Although Spain's constitutional court ruled that a previous, non-binding referendum held in November 2014 was illegal, Romeva insisted there was nothing in the Spanish constitution to stop the new vote going ahead.
"There is no legal problem; it's a political one," he said. "But the Spanish government still hasn't come up with any proposals. We're still waiting but, it would be easier if, instead of making threats, it came up with something."
Madrid has hinted that it could seek to thwart the vote by invoking article 155 of the constitution. In theory, the drastic step would allow it to suspend regional autonomy, order the closure of schools in the region to stop them being used as polling stations and even take control of the Catalan police.
Asked if the Catalan government was planning for such a scenario, Romeva said: "We don't know how the government is going to stop something that is legal, legitimate and democratic … When we know what we need to respond to, we will."
Whatever happened, he added, the Catalan government remained committed to a referendum regardless of its outcome.
"We know that people want to be asked the question," he said. "And if the result of the referendum is no, we'll respect that result, full stop. And if it's yes, that result will have to be respected. I don't know what the result will be – no one does."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/11/pep-guardiola-referendum-catalan-independence-barcelona-rally
Carme Forcadell, the leader of the Catalan parliament, received a huge ovation at the Barcelona rally when she told the flag-waving crowd "there is no Plan B, the only way forward is a referendum".
Catalonia held an unofficial referendum in November 2014 in which 80% voted for independence, but barely a third of eligible voters turned out.
"I think the turnout will be higher than in 2014 because a lot of people want to have their say," said Jesús Espinosa, waiting in the 30-degree heat for Guardiola to speak. "We've been striving for this for 300 years and we're not going to stop now."
"What I want is for us to have the opportunity to vote and to become an independent Catalan republic and to do it legally and peacefully. Madrid will respond as it's always done because Catalonia is a source of income and they'll fight with all they have to keep it."
After the mass rallies in recent years that have attracted more than a million people, Sunday's turnout of only tens of thousands, according to the Catalan government, might be viewed as disappointing. According to a poll at the end of March, support for independence is falling, with 48.5% of Catalans opposed to seceding from Spain, while 44.3% supported breaking away.
Raül Romeva, the Catalan foreign affairs minister, told the Guardian the regional government had a duty to put independence to a popular vote. "We have tried to reach a consensual agreement with Madrid but their response has always been no," he said.
"At the end of the day – given there's not even been the will to sit down at the table to discuss the question – the Catalan government had a democratic obligation and the mandate to put this to the people of Catalonia so that they can express themselves freely."
Although Spain's constitutional court ruled that a previous, non-binding referendum held in November 2014 was illegal, Romeva insisted there was nothing in the Spanish constitution to stop the new vote going ahead.
"There is no legal problem; it's a political one," he said. "But the Spanish government still hasn't come up with any proposals. We're still waiting but, it would be easier if, instead of making threats, it came up with something."
Madrid has hinted that it could seek to thwart the vote by invoking article 155 of the constitution. In theory, the drastic step would allow it to suspend regional autonomy, order the closure of schools in the region to stop them being used as polling stations and even take control of the Catalan police.
Asked if the Catalan government was planning for such a scenario, Romeva said: "We don't know how the government is going to stop something that is legal, legitimate and democratic … When we know what we need to respond to, we will."
Whatever happened, he added, the Catalan government remained committed to a referendum regardless of its outcome.
"We know that people want to be asked the question," he said. "And if the result of the referendum is no, we'll respect that result, full stop. And if it's yes, that result will have to be respected. I don't know what the result will be – no one does."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/11/pep-guardiola-referendum-catalan-independence-barcelona-rally
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